S1E97 - Journey into Nature and Creativity with Author Amy Tan
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S1E97 - Journey into Nature and Creativity with Author Amy Tan

This week we spoke with author Amy Tan about her most recent best-seller, The Backyard Bird Chronicles, a fascinating immersion into nature, the world of birds and her dedication to drawing them. In 2016 during a time of overt racism, especially towards Asian Americans, Amy decided to dive into nature journaling. There she discovered a fascination for birds and approached this world as a novelist, these were her characters. When she drew a bird she imagined she was the bird- trying to understand its intentions. We talked to Amy about this discovery of her characters and how they all bring their unique personalities to her backyard bird cafe. The result of her approach leads us on a magical journey. This is a delightful hour for birders and bird lovers as well as those who simply want to learn more about our flying feathered friends.

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S1E96 - Jessica Calarco - Marginalized Groups and the Battle Against Inequities
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S1E96 - Jessica Calarco - Marginalized Groups and the Battle Against Inequities

A deep and wide ranging conversation with sociologist Jessica Calarco, focusing on educational disparities, class privilege, and social inequities. Key topics included the hidden curriculum in schools, the role of community colleges, and tax policies aimed at economic equality. The conversation began with a focus on the gap between the privileged and the marginalized and the differences in class and race and what the research reveals as well as the question of the effect of inequities on immigrants, the ongoing influence of neoliberal Austrian economists beginning during the New Deal emerged as did the role of tech inequities in education. Charter schools were discussed in the context of inequities and so was the role of patriarchy and the need for a diverse educational workforce and overemphasis on ivy league schools. Professor Calarco also spoke of how she conducts her research and the role of both trade schools and community colleges. She critiqued corporate profit motives, worker exploitation, and the decline of labor unions, proposing policy measures like access to essential services and equitable care responsibilities. She also spoke of the consequences on education of Citizens United and provided Insights on paid leave and work-hour limits, with a preview of future research on evangelical Christianity's impact on social safety nets. She concluded with three core changes in policy to pursue to reduce inequities.

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S1E95 - Fighting Corruption, Waste and Politics to Address Climate Change. Ethan Elkind Explains
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S1E95 - Fighting Corruption, Waste and Politics to Address Climate Change. Ethan Elkind Explains

Ethan Elkind, a leading climate scientist, led us initially into an understanding of why climate goals were not being met and how that affects overall messaging. From there he spoke of the importance of battery technology, solar and wind renewable energies, and transition to minerals such as lithium, cobalt and graphite. He emphasized the need for care in the mining sector where he sees a window for change and the building of better grids. We then spoke of "lifestyle" changes, the need for more housing and a culture too centered on cars. Ethan spoke about desalination and water and the issue of equity vis-à-vis the carbon imprint of developing countries. Ethan emphasized the importance of addressing climate problems systemically via low carbon biofuels and policy actions. He spoke of AI as being bad for climate but expressed optimism about hydrogen and the progress made in renewables. He addressed the killing nature of heat and stated that air conditioning will become a human right and he suggested other ways around heat but noted the inevitability of fewer habitable places and mass migration. He spoke of L.A. as a leader of mass transit and highlighted the need for a different tax policy and the fact that mangroves matter and corruption in the battery supply chain remains an ongoing problem. Food waste was added as a big issue because of methane. Ethan said, "We can buy a couple of decades if we decrease methane emissions but there is a lot to do." We talked about the Native American non-profit he started and his work with tribes to improve governance. We concluded with discussing environmental work having triage to it and asking what Ethan would advise students. Ethan answered with "Do what you feel most passionate about and match it up to the most urgent needs."

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S1E94 - Aimee Allison Foresees a Bright Future for an America Full of Women of Color in Power
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S1E94 - Aimee Allison Foresees a Bright Future for an America Full of Women of Color in Power

Aimee Allison, Founder of She the People, joined us to talk about the Kamala Harris presidential nomination and the increased and increasing role of women of color in U.S. key positions of political power. We spoke of political organizer, Georgia's Stacey Abrams, as well as the defeat of squad members Cori Bush in a Missouri primary and Jamaal Bowman in Queens, and the significant role of AIPAC in both losses. We discussed Trump's response to Black journalists which Allison described as "deeply racist" and, she added, it "made him look like an idiot." We focused on voting in Georgia and also in Rwanda, where 60% of women make up government representation as well as discussing how patriarchy is baked into the American political system. Allison posited that America's time to shift from patriarchy has come –women leaders of color, like Kamala Harris, are here and are ready to assume and hold positions of power. She praised the choice by Vice President Harris of Tim Walz of Minnesota as her running mate and took the position that many of the negative characterizations of Vice President Harris have emerged from racist tropes and misogyny. She then addressed ways to make Black girls our next leaders and spoke of Shirley Chisholm's extraordinary influence on her and other young women of color and her experiences as a young woman in the military who eventually applied for conscientious objector status. We then took up the question of breaking chains and making things better for generations to come. Emphasizing the necessity of remembering a powerful tradition, Allison said, "Remember Sojourner Truth and the godmothers who came before us and opened up spaces with love." She concluded by speaking of the need for humane immigration reform, which she hoped would emerge under Kamala Harris's leadership and a new political era which she believes November's election in the U.S. can bring.

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S1E93 - Matt Abrahams - Think of Your Audience as the North Star of Communication
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S1E93 - Matt Abrahams - Think of Your Audience as the North Star of Communication

Stanford Business School Lecturer, author and host of the popular podcast Think Fast/Talk Smart joined us for an inspired and inspiring hour on overcoming public speech anxiety and communicating effectively. Matt spoke of the importance of focusing on value and being conversational as well as having a map and structure. He talked about deep breathing, holding something cold and “greeting anxiety” as well as how his own career began with anxiety over a speech he had to give at the age of fourteen. He touched on the importance of connection, mindset and what he called “mis takes,” as well as responding to hecklers, pattern recognition and framing. Matt and Michel then moved to the importance of listening well, including, as Matt put it, to what’s not being said. Michael brought up being what he called “riff ready” and Matt highlighted the importance of stockpiling stories and anecdotes and building trust and rapport. Matt and Michael were laying out a foundation, a primer for optimal communication and their conversation moved on to the importance of curiosity and the uses of AI. A listener asked about what to say during a job interview and another listener wanted to know how best to use slides and Matt provided answers as well as focusing on how stress can be of value and the importance and value of paraphrasing and visualization. The dialogue wound up with focus on implications for primary education, Matt’s software and his podcast. Michael brought in the Roman poet Horace, who identified the purpose of literature as teaching and entertaining, and concluded “it’s the same for sp”

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S1E92 - Kelly Corrigan - It's Hard to Make a Family that Works but not Hard to be Useful
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S1E92 - Kelly Corrigan - It's Hard to Make a Family that Works but not Hard to be Useful

Popular PBS Interviewer and New York Times best-selling author Kelly Corrigan sat down with Michael Krasny to talk about a wide range of topics including her experiences decades ago as Professor Krasny's student as well as her views on interviewing. She spoke of her interviews ("A lot like a date and full of emotion") with Francis Collins; Jennifer Garner; David Byrne; Bryan Stevenson and Judd Apatow and delved into the question of why do good and the problem of what media buyers want as well as the importance of positivity and humor. She then spoke of her Ted talk and her children and the recent shocking revelations about Nobel prize winning Canadian author Alice Munro ignoring her daughter's molestations by Munro's second husband. She talked about the importance of forgiveness to save oneself and about her mother, daughters and husband and his mother. She also reflected on wellness and how to pursue it and, calling herself "a person who loves the afflicted," she spoke of the heartbreak of too many around us afflicted with unhappiness. She opined that taxes could solve the problem of poverty and the conversation concluded with her speaking about how and why she became a writer. A terrific, enlightening and fun conversation between two masterful interviewers.

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S1E91 - Long-Time Trump Critic and Tax and Economics Expert David Cay Johnston Goes After the GOP Nominee and his Running Mate
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S1E91 - Long-Time Trump Critic and Tax and Economics Expert David Cay Johnston Goes After the GOP Nominee and his Running Mate

Pulitzer prize winning journalist and economics and tax expert David Cay Johnston spoke with us about his long and extensive investigative research on former U.S. president Donald Trump as well as the state of the U.S. economy during the Trump and Biden presidencies. Johnston spoke critically of news organizations, especially of what he characterized as their inability to cover Trump as “a con artist” and three generations of white collar criminality of the family of the man who now wields control over the Republican party. Johnston labeled Vice Presidential candidate J.D. Vance a man of no moral principles, and went on to talk about the abortion issue, Project 2025, trickle down economics, former President Trump as “an asset to the Russian government, not an agent,” and Trump tower as a place once full of mobsters and a casino under Trump’s apartment. Johnston accused U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland of poor judgement in waiting too long to appoint a special prosecutor. We discussed the four cases set against former president Trump and Johnston distinguished the difference between a pardon and clemency and spoke of the IRS as “tax police” as well as why many Americans appear to approve of Trump not paying any taxes. We concluded with Johnston talking about his only appearance, with no return invitation, on the Rachel Maddow’s TV show and a story, set in Lansing, Michigan, of one of the few times he felt, as an investigative reporter, he was wrong.

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S1E90 - Peter Coyote - Most of Us Have a Kind of Merciless Junkyard Dog in Us
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S1E90 - Peter Coyote - Most of Us Have a Kind of Merciless Junkyard Dog in Us

Acclaimed actor, famed narrative voice and Zen Buddhist priest Peter Coyote joined us in a far reaching dialogue which took in his acting and voice careers as well as his life and his life philosophy and sharp edged political views. We spoke, too, about the content in his latest book, Zen in the Vernacular and his early, preeminent family influences and the shaping influences of the Diggers, as well as his heroin addiction and his radical political beliefs and faith in what he calls radical optimism and the four noble truths of Buddhism. He named those he believes deserve to be called our greatest actors, told all about of his first meeting with Ken Burns and spoke of the inequity of wealth and CEO salaries as well as Paul Weyrich's Christian nationalist film "Bad Faith" and the infamous Lewis Powell memo. He described the U.S. presidential race as democracy versus autocracy and the rise of Trump politically as the product of a sixty year struggle. We concluded with him speaking about his name change to Coyote and defining the Buddhist concept of dharma. Time well spent with a fascinating man of many accomplishments and strong views on politics and our essential connectedness.

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S1E89 - Frank Bruni - The End Of Nuanced and Complicated Conversations? A Zero Sum Game Fosters Competition Versus Connection
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S1E89 - Frank Bruni - The End Of Nuanced and Complicated Conversations? A Zero Sum Game Fosters Competition Versus Connection

Leading New York Times writer and best-selling author Frank Bruni joined us for an in-depth discussion of his most recent book The Age of Grievance which focuses on American culture's fall into pessimism and the binary world of choosing sides, tribalism, and the pressing need for compromise and common ground. It is somewhat global (as with Brexit) but largely an American phenomenon of a scale never imagined and at the center, says Bruni, is ugly politics. Though more consequential and perilous from the right than from the left, there are grievance merchants and grievance entrepreneurs on both sides and Bruni went into an example on the left side of the political spectrum of the use of identity politics with Brittany Greiner and on the right with the power of Donald Trump. Though originally all about social connection, social media makes all of it worse and creates disconnection. Bruni, a Duke journalism professor, also emphasized the role of the media in exacerbating the pervasive sense of grievance and he spoke of geographic sorting after the Dobbs abortion decision being like social media. He spoke, too, of the power of consumers and the need for more open and non-partisan primaries, ranked-choice voting, and overall moderation and major change in both political and civil culture, including a deeper recognition of the common good and how our welfare is bound together as citizens. We concluded with talk about whether he missed being a restaurant or movie critic, his feelings about being a gay professor, Seinfeld's appearance at Duke, and the extent of emphasis in academia on trigger warnings. A fascinating discussion with one of the nation's leading and most respected thinkers.

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S1E88 - Self-Driving Cars to Robot Roommates: Robert Scoble Spatial Computing Strategist
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S1E88 - Self-Driving Cars to Robot Roommates: Robert Scoble Spatial Computing Strategist

Passion is an understatement when it comes to tech futurist, evangelist, creator of famous Silicon Valley blog Scobleizer, author of six prescient books, podcaster, video journalist, and former Microsoft strategist Robert Scoble. Host Michael Krasny gets down to business, exploring a mind-bending array of topics that will define our technological future:

Get Ready for the Driverless Revolution: Scoble dives deep into the world of autonomous vehicles, discussing how they will transform transportation and the impact they'll have on our roads.

Robots: Roommates or Revolutionaries?: The conversation delves into the rise of humanoid robots, exploring their potential to become helpful companions in our homes and workplaces, while also examining the possible societal shifts they might bring.

AI Ethics: Navigating the Maze: Scoble tackles the crucial yet complex issue of artificial intelligence (AI) ethics, prompting discussion on responsible development and the need for safeguards in a world increasingly reliant on AI.

Smart Cities: The Tech-Powered Metropolis of Tomorrow: The future of urban planning takes center stage as Scoble explores how cities will adapt and evolve to integrate seamlessly with new technologies…

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S1E87 - Maddy Dychtwald - Women Are Different Than Men!
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S1E87 - Maddy Dychtwald - Women Are Different Than Men!

Author and global futurist Maddy Dychtwald joined us for a wide-ranging deep dive into the subject of her latest best-selling book on the topic of women and aging. We began with her discussing her reasons for writing the book, her work with cutting edge researchers, her erasing of personal hip pain and the longevity revolution. She clarified her objective of not trying to retain youth versus discovering ways to prevent or delay physical or brain decline. We delved into gender differences and the historical gender biases in the health care system beyond reproductive health. A question followed on ultra processed foods which, Maddy argued "should be kept out of the pantry," followed by a caveat from the host about lingering uncertainties. Problems of ageism, discrimination of women in the workplace, loss and loneliness were also addressed as were factors to offset all of those – especially sense of purpose and social connections, family and pets. We then addressed commercial and demographic changes and the thirty trillion dollars women stand to inherit though we also touched on women's poverty in the U.S. and the developing world. We spoke of the effect of sugar, alcohol and the importance of lifelong learning and financial agency, proper hours of circadian sleep and a positive attitude. We focused on spirituality, meditation and sex, including the role of orgasms, and wound-up discussing hormone replacement and what is singularly most important for women's health. We even heard a bit about Maddy Dychtwald's youthful career as an actor. An illuminating, spirited and lively hour!

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S1E86 - Bret Stephens - Competition between the Morally Unfit and the Mentally Unfit
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S1E86 - Bret Stephens - Competition between the Morally Unfit and the Mentally Unfit

”Competition between the Morally Unfit and the Mentally Unfit.” That was Bret Stephens' take on the U.S. presidential race. We spoke of the race and of immigration, including what Stephens described as "legitimate criticism" of the Biden administration as well as Stephens' own family history and realizing the American dream. He also spoke of the need for control of U.S. borders and a wall and the need to bring people in in a regularized way to apply for visas in a way that does not overwhelm. "We need immigrants," Stephens said and from there we went to reproductive rights which Stephens believes won't have the impact it did in the last election. Our conversation went on to Jews and Zionism and Anti-Zionism as the new Anti-Semitism and parallels of the present to the Second World War and Stephens' views that "Ukraine will change the nature of warfare" and Europe's turn to the Right and the present as "a Dreyfus and Herzl moment." Social media, Stephens said, should be called Anti-Social Media because it allows fanatics to find one another. He made his position clear in condemning students who support Hamas and made clear, too, that he blames the professors even more as well as outside money supporting encampments. Stephens then addressed how democracy allowed technologies to be born and take root in the U.S. Who, he asked, would buy Russian and he stated, "China will never overtake the United States" and he said the biggest threat from China is their decline. We went back to discussing immigration and the need for assimilatory capacity and the presidential race and the need there for a system that produces better candidates. We concluded comparing Mozart and Beethoven and The Beatles and The Rolling Stones.

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S1E85 - Steven Brill - Pallbearers for Truth?
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S1E85 - Steven Brill - Pallbearers for Truth?

Journalist, entrepreneur and best-selling author Steven Brill joined us to map out why opinions, disinformation and conspiracy theories have become the global death knell for truth. We spoke of why so many people no longer trust facts and Brill's own personal experience with a Russian disinformation operative. He discussed his for-profit business NewsGuard and his vested interest in exposing disinformation. We focused on false narratives from both the Right and the Left and on a young man, an Ohio State graduate, who went down the rabbit hole of the Internet and wound-up part of the violence in D.C. on January 6th. The lack of trust in the health care system and the belief in pedophilia conspiracy theories were highlighted and linked to a need for order. Brill was asked about Court TV, which was his original project, and he spoke of his regret that the trial of former President Trump was not televised. He also spoke of the inevitable worsening of our present circumstances as generative Artificial Intelligence moves forward and he provided a picture of the overall deleterious effects of programmatic advertising. We then moved on to necessary solutions with discussion of Section 230, FTC enforcement and lawsuits based on terms of service, as well as K thru 12 computer literacy education. A timely, highly engaging and illuminating dialogue!

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S1E84 - I'm Anything but a Luddite: An Hour with Entrepreneur Andrew Keen
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S1E84 - I'm Anything but a Luddite: An Hour with Entrepreneur Andrew Keen

Silicon Valley acclaimed entrepreneur and author Andrew Keen of Keen on and Keen on Substack joined us. We heard his views on the Internet and big tech companies and how new agency and a middle ground are needed rather than regulation or new technology. Andrew discussed the future of work as well as failures of Facebook despite its economic successes; the damage potential of AI; failures of the digital revolution and Israel as a U.S. junior partner. He additionally touched on privacy and surveillance; Google's "Do no Evil" and Google as the first AI company and AI's running the narrative of the 21rst century. We concluded with Andrew defending against shutting down TikTok. However, the episode took place the day after former U.S. President Donald Trump was found guilty on thirty-four felony counts and so we began by getting Andrew's reactions and analysis on all of that. Andrew opined that "the extraordinary is ordinary in politics in America" and spoke of January 6th as being more theatre than existential crisis and the Nineties as being more violent and more disturbing. He also spoke of every day seeming to be a crisis in America and his sympathy for protesting students.

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S1E83 - Observations and Advice on Children and Teens from Leading Researcher Ellen Galinsky
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S1E83 - Observations and Advice on Children and Teens from Leading Researcher Ellen Galinsky

Director of The Bezos Family Foundation and author of Mind in the Making, The Six Stages of Parenthood and The Breakthrough Years, Ellen Galinsky joined us for a deep dive interview starting with the role of neuroscience in understanding the teen brain and then branching out to questions related to teen risky behavior, self-control, decision making and autonomy. We talked about the student protestors who she viewed as taking positive risks and went on to helicopter parenting; kids as pals of their parents; birth order; temperaments and the two areas in which she holds some of her strongest convictions -- executive function skills and engagement. A veritable potpourri of important and interrelated topics, including the good and the bad in social media; social efficacy; home schooling; creative and critical thinking and kids who change gender.

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S1E82 - Mike Elgan - A Cosmopolitan Bon Vivant on being a Gastronomad and Artificial Intelligence
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S1E82 - Mike Elgan - A Cosmopolitan Bon Vivant on being a Gastronomad and Artificial Intelligence

Journalist, blogger, columnist, podcaster, and technology writer Mike Elgan joined us live from Venice to talk about being a temporary local and AI. The dialogue began with Mike explaining the life he lives and wrote about in Gastronomad, a life of constant travel and absorbing different cultures while remote work allows for a livable income and stories are gathered. We moved on to talk about nineteenth century historian Thomas Carlyle’s notion of the mechanical age and how we are presently in it as well as a hierarchical structure based on machinery use. Mike spoke of the use of avatars and Apple Vision Pros and digital twins, all imminent, and he expressed his concern that society is not ready for the adoptions ahead. He spoke of the two sides of AI -- hope in matters of health and communications and the thousands of other ways it can help us as well as skepticism about sci fi created dangers and tons of problems AI will never solve. Mike urged for AI to be seen as non-human and emphasized the need to realize we will never replace the human mind. He touched on prosthetic memory, artificial knowledge, multimodal AI, Meta Ray-Bans, the video mode in AI and digital influencers as well as dangers of artificial and AI generated people. A unique episode brimming with thoughts and ideas!

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S1E81 - Larry Tye - Jazz – Backdrop to the Civil Rights Movement
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S1E81 - Larry Tye - Jazz – Backdrop to the Civil Rights Movement

Biographer (Bobby Kennedy and Satchel) and award-winning reporter Larry Tye talked to us about his newest book, The Jazzmen: How Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong and Count Basie Transformed America. All three of these iconic musicians, Tye noted, though from different backgrounds, had to endure Jim Crow and racial bigotry but “opened the eyes, ears and souls” of White men and the women they wooed and “set the table for the civil rights movement.” Tye took on this writing task out of a promise he made to Black Pullman porters. His many books have resulted from what he, as a journalist, was drawn to enough to devote three years to. The Jazzmen emerged from looking for what these three musical geniuses did in music and the world and despite Tye describing himself as tone deaf and knowing nothing about music and discovering the moral feet of clay of all three of these men of faith. We discussed the lives and times of each of the three and then talked about women in jazz – mostly singers except for Armstrong’s wife, Lillian Hardin, and we touched on the origin of the nickname Satchmo for Armstrong and the different class backgrounds of the three and some of their famous sidemen as well as the links between the three and Jewish managers, bandmates and mobsters and Armstrong’s adoption by a Jewish family and the Jewish origins of Superman. We spoke, too, of jazz language, Wynton Marsalis, Jon Batiste, Sonny Rollins, Dave Brubeck and what Bobby Kennedy Senior might have felt about his son and namesake running for president.

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S1E80 - More Americans Killed By Cows Than Illegal Border Crossers: A Conversation With Pundit Marc Sandalow
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S1E80 - More Americans Killed By Cows Than Illegal Border Crossers: A Conversation With Pundit Marc Sandalow

Veteran political analyst and Associate Director of The Washington Center Marc Sandalow joined us for a rich and wide ranging conversation about the political landscape -- starting with the ongoing trial of Donald Trump and proceeding to questions about who will and will not turn out to vote in the upcoming U.S. presidential election. Marc spoke of his UC Berkeley student's dissatisfaction with both President Biden and former President Trump and citizen perceptions of aging in the two as well as the liability to President Biden of Vice President Kamala Harris being his likely running mate. We also discussed the third party candidacy of Robert F Kennedy Jr and the historic role of third party candidates and touched on the electoral college, the Black vote and the efficacy of polls. The dialogue then pivoted to immigration with Marc expressing the view of illegal/undocumented immigrants being demonized and scapegoated for political purposes as responsible for high incidences of murder, rape and other violent crimes. Terrorists may be entering the U.S. illegally, Marc conceded, but for the present, he declared, more Americans are killed by cows. More illegal/undocumented immigrants, he pointed out, are coming into the U.S. and more fentanyl also is, but crime is continuing to go down and illegals/undocumenteds generally do not illegally vote. Marc spoke of how playing up the fearsome dangers of big cities also plays well politically. He discussed presidential immunity, bipartisanship, today's social media, journalism, rank choice voting, national security and the Chinese and their ownership of TikTok. A master class on civics and politics by a seasoned journalist, political analyst and university teacher!

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S1E79 - The Passion of Entrepreneurship: A Conversation with Technologist and CEO Edwin Fu
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S1E79 - The Passion of Entrepreneurship: A Conversation with Technologist and CEO Edwin Fu

With a client list that includes Walmart, Microsoft and Apple, Placement IO Founder and CEO Edwin Fu spoke with us about entrepreneurship. He talked about the high which comes from solving problems and building a better mousetrap and the necessity of having the passion of a mad scientist. He emphasized the necessity of craziness for founders based on tenacity and vision and an ability to execute. Money, success, and growth are all, Fu argues, byproducts of drive. He talked, too, of being burned and issues of data and privacy as well as the changing nature of advertising and the importance of being cautious about following advice. He then went on to speak of AI, social media and the U.S. economy. With nine out of ten start-ups failing here is wise and valuable advice.

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S1E78 - Amb. Dennis Ross on Israel-Hamas Conflict: Unpacking the Crisis
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S1E78 - Amb. Dennis Ross on Israel-Hamas Conflict: Unpacking the Crisis

The architect of the Oslo accords, Ambassador Dennis Ross, who worked in five U.S. presidential administrations trying to broker peace between Israelis and Palestinians, joined us on the heels of the deaths in Gaza, at the hands of the Israelis, of seven humanitarian workers. Ambassador Ross spoke of the present conflict as the worst he has witnessed and he discussed the trauma of both the Palestinian and Israeli sides as well as the differences in the Israel, West Bank and Gaza governments, the security misreadings by the Israeli government, the diversions of humanitarian aid by Hamas and the legacy of October 7th and the hostages taken by Hamas. Ambassador Ross spoke, too, of Israel's fraught political stability and the likely future for Prime Minister Netanyahu and his coalition. He also provided an assessment of Hamas militarily and gauged the effect on the region of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the role of Turkey's Erdogan and Egypt under El-Sisi. He spoke, too, of the perniciousness of Hamas as well as condemning the Israeli occupation and the incorrect use of the word genocide to condemn Israel. We had the opportunity as well to speak with the Ambassador about Iran's role in the region and the prospects of a single versus a two states solution and what to expect after the war is over. A wide-ranging, incisive discussion replete with first-rate insights.

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