The latest episode of Grey Matter with Michael Krasny featured best-selling crime and detective novelist Michael Connelly, creator of Harry Bosch and Mickey Haller, and author of his 39th novel, "The Waiting."

The conversation began with Krasny asking Connelly how he decides which character to feature, since "The Waiting" stars Renée Ballard, though Bosch plays a major role. Connelly discussed the important advisory role of Ballard's prototype, Mitzi Roberts, the recently retired head of the Los Angeles cold case unit. He explained how the journalist in him uses real and current events as undergirdings to his fiction.

Our third of four Bill Lane Center for the American West podcasts featured Stanford's Alex Nemerov in conversation with Michael Krasny. The discussion began with what makes Western art distinctive and what captured Alex's imagination. Michael then explored Alex's approach to curating art exhibitions and discussed the influences of Alex's father, celebrated poet Howard Nemerov, and his aunt, iconic pioneer photographer Diane Arbus. This led to a discussion of Susan Sontag's book on photography and photography's status as fine art. The conversation then broadened to explore various themes: women artists, Jasper Johns, the universal and spiritual elements in art, solipsism, art for the marketplace versus art for art's sake, and socially purposeful versus aesthetic art. Alex shared both personal and professional perspectives on art's power—from its inward transformative and transfiguring effects to its broader meaning and potential as a world-changing agent. The interview concluded with a discussion of kindness, and Alex revealed what he considers the greatest work in American art.

In a thought-provoking interview, Michael Krasny speaks with Richard Reeves, founder of the American Institute for Boys and Men, about the mounting challenges facing boys and men in contemporary society. Reeves, drawing from his experience at the Brookings Institution, outlines how girls have significantly surpassed boys in educational achievement, from high school through college, attributing this partly to differences in executive functioning, developmental timelines, and brain maturation. He highlights a growing crisis among young men, marked by increasing rates of mental health issues, isolation, and a lack of purpose as traditional male roles evolve. The conversation explores how societal shifts in work expectations and the erosion of traditional provider roles have impacted young men's sense of identity and motivation. Reeves advocates for systemic changes to support both genders equally, while criticizing divisive terminology like "toxic masculinity" that he believes can alienate men and push them toward more extreme viewpoints. Throughout the discussion, he emphasizes the importance of addressing these challenges while maintaining a balanced approach that avoids pitting genders against each other.

In a wide-ranging conversation with Michael Krasny, NPR Senior Editor and Correspondent Ron Elving provided insightful political analysis of the upcoming elections. The discussion began with an examination of polling efficacy and the impact of absentee ballots before delving into the roles of race and gender in the presidential race.

The conversation explored campaign tactics, including discussions of Trump being labeled a fascist and his characterization of the U.S. as a "garbage can." Elving and Krasny also addressed concerns about foreign interference and controversial NFL advertisements targeting Harris on gender issues.

We began our second Bill Lane Center for the American West sponsored episode with leading long-time environmental and former Russia-based journalist Felicity Barringer, editor of & the West, a magazine about the future and nature of the West. We discussed the future of water in the West, focusing on the divisions in the Colorado River, new water technologies, and the region's concentration of lithium. We then explored geothermal energy alternatives, the Sustainable Groundwater Act, and the threats of sea level rise to coastal communities, as well as how the insurance industry has adapted to survive the effects of climate change. Felicity addressed the ongoing debate about the West's advancement on climate change compared to other regions and we examined the damage to salmon runs resulting from both climate change and dams. Rounding out this rich conversation, we delved into topics ranging from seaweed farming and dust storms to Native peoples and western land, social media's impact on national parks, and coal. The discussion concluded with Felicity's insights about what distinguishes the American West culturally, her experiences as a journalist in Russia during the Gorbachev era, and what lies ahead for & the West.

A wide-ranging discussion featured acclaimed author and podcaster Malcolm Gladwell. Michael Krasny began by exploring Malcolm's entry into podcasting. Malcolm shared his love for the medium and how his podcast, Revisionist History, showcases his "mischievous side." They discussed the success of podcasters Joe Rogan and Bill Simmons and the importance of curiosity and listening skills. Malcolm touched on his experience with Paul Simon and the cultural effects on cardiologists, as detailed in his latest book. The conversation covered diverse topics. These included elite schools and college admissions processes, a town with a suicide epidemic, and the homogeneity of cheetahs. Malcolm also spoke about OxyContin and COVID, his favorite published book, and his current writing project. He expressed a growing interest in character-driven writing and his admiration for journalist Janet Malcolm. The dialogue then shifted to the role of faith in Malcolm's writing and his thoughts on Kamala Harris and popular music. They explored the impact of popular culture on Holocaust discussions and Malcolm's views on Pastor Rick Warren. The importance of journalism and Malcolm's increasing skepticism were also addressed. The conversation concluded with topics like white flight, fame, and Malcolm's earlier work at The New Yorker.

Michael Krasny began this episode with tech and media expert Jim Louderback by asking him what he foresees for the future of digital media and the dialogue then moved on to a discussion of AI and ChatGPT. From there the conversation went to the fate of TikTok & Jim's opinions on Instagram, YouTube and its creators, Netflix, and entrepreneurship. The conversation then flowed to Jim and Michael discussing their experiences with conferences and some of what each disclosed as the secrets of good and productive interviewing. A rich and illuminating conversation continued with a discussion about The Lighthouse, a place for creators, Telegram facing prosecution and the effects of social platforms on children, as well as the overall role of creators and ZDTV. Michael then asked Jim about his notion that we soon will see the end of advertising as we presently know it and Jim concluded, following a question from Michael, with his thoughts on privacy. Those who know Louderback's passion and insightfulness will find much predictably gratifying here. If you don't know him you will likely also appreciate his passionate perspectives.

We began this first of four episodes, sponsored by the Bill Lane Center for the American West, with its co-founder and emeritus Stanford History Professor and Pulitzer Prize-winning author David M. Kennedy, discussing the real and the mythic American West and the nation's possibly most interdisciplinary course offered by the Center on the West and defining what the West is – including its geological history and the over two-century singular role of the federal government. This was followed by Michael Krasny asking Professor Kennedy what drew him to the study of the West and a discussion of the old versus the new West and the irony of the West's colonial economy and its dominance in the development of high tech. This rich and enlightening dialogue proceeded to a consideration of the West's violence and lawlessness, especially against Native Americans, who are much larger in number in the West and play a strong present role in advancing environmental issues. Professor Kennedy then touched on the history of gender in the West, the distinctive politics of the West, and the overall effects of immigration on the region. He also spoke in this extraordinarily informed and informative episode about the role of the Lane Center and the unique expansion in the West.

Elizabeth Farnsworth, former PBS Newshour anchor and reporter turned writer, engaged in a wide-ranging conversation with host Michael Krasny about her career and latest work. The discussion covered her memorable interviews, mentors, and experiences as a foreign correspondent, including traumatic events that led to her leaving that role. Farnsworth reflected on the challenges of modern news reporting and the differences between commercial and public broadcasting. The conversation then shifted to her novel "Last Light," which explores the treatment of German POWs in a fictional Kansas hospital during World War II. Farnsworth shared insights into her creative process, the differences between memoir and fiction writing, and her thoughts on prose style. The dialogue also touched on historical topics such as the underground railroad and school integration, as well as personal reflections from both Farnsworth and Krasny. The conversation concluded with comparisons between broadcasting and podcasting, and reminiscences about notable figures they had interviewed in the past.

We spent a recorded hour with esteemed journalist and editor Perry Garfinkel, author of the bestselling Buddha or Bust and the recently published Becoming Gandhi. Perry spoke of his quest to find morality in Gandhi's life and work and Gandhi's six principles and the differences between being and becoming – the latter presupposing the infinite in practice. Perry spoke of the Mahatma's lack of understanding of his own sexuality as well as his belief in goodness, which Perry labeled "pollyannaish." He was able to mix criticism of Gandhi and his principles, including naivete about social violence in man's nature and less sophistication in Gandhi than in the Buddha, with high respect for Gandhi's deep understanding of human suffering and the need for compassion and empathy with an enduring belief in passive resistance as a means to change. Perry spoke of religious differences in India and Gandhi's letters to Hitler, which went unanswered, and the media's overplay of an incident involving the Dalai Lama, who wrote the foreword to Perry's book, and a young boy. Michael and Perry also discuss the efficacy in today's world of passive resistance and links to Thoreau and Martin Luther King, as well as fasting and the impact of Richard Attenborough's famous film about the Mahatma and the Mahatma's essential twin pillars of truth and non-violence. Perry concluded by calling himself a cynic by profession but one who felt heartened as a result of being changed by studying Gandhi and striving to be "Perry 2.0."

This week we spoke with author Amy Tan about her most recent best-seller, The Backyard Bird Chronicles, a fascinating immersion into nature, the world of birds and her dedication to drawing them. In 2016 during a time of overt racism, especially towards Asian Americans, Amy decided to dive into nature journaling. There she discovered a fascination for birds and approached this world as a novelist, these were her characters. When she drew a bird she imagined she was the bird- trying to understand its intentions. We talked to Amy about this discovery of her characters and how they all bring their unique personalities to her backyard bird cafe. The result of her approach leads us on a magical journey. This is a delightful hour for birders and bird lovers as well as those who simply want to learn more about our flying feathered friends.

A deep and wide ranging conversation with sociologist Jessica Calarco, focusing on educational disparities, class privilege, and social inequities. Key topics included the hidden curriculum in schools, the role of community colleges, and tax policies aimed at economic equality. The conversation began with a focus on the gap between the privileged and the marginalized and the differences in class and race and what the research reveals as well as the question of the effect of inequities on immigrants, the ongoing influence of neoliberal Austrian economists beginning during the New Deal emerged as did the role of tech inequities in education. Charter schools were discussed in the context of inequities and so was the role of patriarchy and the need for a diverse educational workforce and overemphasis on ivy league schools. Professor Calarco also spoke of how she conducts her research and the role of both trade schools and community colleges. She critiqued corporate profit motives, worker exploitation, and the decline of labor unions, proposing policy measures like access to essential services and equitable care responsibilities. She also spoke of the consequences on education of Citizens United and provided Insights on paid leave and work-hour limits, with a preview of future research on evangelical Christianity's impact on social safety nets. She concluded with three core changes in policy to pursue to reduce inequities.

Ethan Elkind, a leading climate scientist, led us initially into an understanding of why climate goals were not being met and how that affects overall messaging. From there he spoke of the importance of battery technology, solar and wind renewable energies, and transition to minerals such as lithium, cobalt and graphite. He emphasized the need for care in the mining sector where he sees a window for change and the building of better grids. We then spoke of "lifestyle" changes, the need for more housing and a culture too centered on cars. Ethan spoke about desalination and water and the issue of equity vis-à-vis the carbon imprint of developing countries. Ethan emphasized the importance of addressing climate problems systemically via low carbon biofuels and policy actions. He spoke of AI as being bad for climate but expressed optimism about hydrogen and the progress made in renewables. He addressed the killing nature of heat and stated that air conditioning will become a human right and he suggested other ways around heat but noted the inevitability of fewer habitable places and mass migration. He spoke of L.A. as a leader of mass transit and highlighted the need for a different tax policy and the fact that mangroves matter and corruption in the battery supply chain remains an ongoing problem. Food waste was added as a big issue because of methane. Ethan said, "We can buy a couple of decades if we decrease methane emissions but there is a lot to do." We talked about the Native American non-profit he started and his work with tribes to improve governance. We concluded with discussing environmental work having triage to it and asking what Ethan would advise students. Ethan answered with "Do what you feel most passionate about and match it up to the most urgent needs."

Aimee Allison, Founder of She the People, joined us to talk about the Kamala Harris presidential nomination and the increased and increasing role of women of color in U.S. key positions of political power. We spoke of political organizer, Georgia's Stacey Abrams, as well as the defeat of squad members Cori Bush in a Missouri primary and Jamaal Bowman in Queens, and the significant role of AIPAC in both losses. We discussed Trump's response to Black journalists which Allison described as "deeply racist" and, she added, it "made him look like an idiot." We focused on voting in Georgia and also in Rwanda, where 60% of women make up government representation as well as discussing how patriarchy is baked into the American political system. Allison posited that America's time to shift from patriarchy has come –women leaders of color, like Kamala Harris, are here and are ready to assume and hold positions of power. She praised the choice by Vice President Harris of Tim Walz of Minnesota as her running mate and took the position that many of the negative characterizations of Vice President Harris have emerged from racist tropes and misogyny. She then addressed ways to make Black girls our next leaders and spoke of Shirley Chisholm's extraordinary influence on her and other young women of color and her experiences as a young woman in the military who eventually applied for conscientious objector status. We then took up the question of breaking chains and making things better for generations to come. Emphasizing the necessity of remembering a powerful tradition, Allison said, "Remember Sojourner Truth and the godmothers who came before us and opened up spaces with love." She concluded by speaking of the need for humane immigration reform, which she hoped would emerge under Kamala Harris's leadership and a new political era which she believes November's election in the U.S. can bring.

Stanford Business School Lecturer, author and host of the popular podcast Think Fast/Talk Smart joined us for an inspired and inspiring hour on overcoming public speech anxiety and communicating effectively. Matt spoke of the importance of focusing on value and being conversational as well as having a map and structure. He talked about deep breathing, holding something cold and “greeting anxiety” as well as how his own career began with anxiety over a speech he had to give at the age of fourteen. He touched on the importance of connection, mindset and what he called “mis takes,” as well as responding to hecklers, pattern recognition and framing. Matt and Michel then moved to the importance of listening well, including, as Matt put it, to what’s not being said. Michael brought up being what he called “riff ready” and Matt highlighted the importance of stockpiling stories and anecdotes and building trust and rapport. Matt and Michael were laying out a foundation, a primer for optimal communication and their conversation moved on to the importance of curiosity and the uses of AI. A listener asked about what to say during a job interview and another listener wanted to know how best to use slides and Matt provided answers as well as focusing on how stress can be of value and the importance and value of paraphrasing and visualization. The dialogue wound up with focus on implications for primary education, Matt’s software and his podcast. Michael brought in the Roman poet Horace, who identified the purpose of literature as teaching and entertaining, and concluded “it’s the same for sp”

Popular PBS Interviewer and New York Times best-selling author Kelly Corrigan sat down with Michael Krasny to talk about a wide range of topics including her experiences decades ago as Professor Krasny's student as well as her views on interviewing. She spoke of her interviews ("A lot like a date and full of emotion") with Francis Collins; Jennifer Garner; David Byrne; Bryan Stevenson and Judd Apatow and delved into the question of why do good and the problem of what media buyers want as well as the importance of positivity and humor. She then spoke of her Ted talk and her children and the recent shocking revelations about Nobel prize winning Canadian author Alice Munro ignoring her daughter's molestations by Munro's second husband. She talked about the importance of forgiveness to save oneself and about her mother, daughters and husband and his mother. She also reflected on wellness and how to pursue it and, calling herself "a person who loves the afflicted," she spoke of the heartbreak of too many around us afflicted with unhappiness. She opined that taxes could solve the problem of poverty and the conversation concluded with her speaking about how and why she became a writer. A terrific, enlightening and fun conversation between two masterful interviewers.

Pulitzer prize winning journalist and economics and tax expert David Cay Johnston spoke with us about his long and extensive investigative research on former U.S. president Donald Trump as well as the state of the U.S. economy during the Trump and Biden presidencies. Johnston spoke critically of news organizations, especially of what he characterized as their inability to cover Trump as “a con artist” and three generations of white collar criminality of the family of the man who now wields control over the Republican party. Johnston labeled Vice Presidential candidate J.D. Vance a man of no moral principles, and went on to talk about the abortion issue, Project 2025, trickle down economics, former President Trump as “an asset to the Russian government, not an agent,” and Trump tower as a place once full of mobsters and a casino under Trump’s apartment. Johnston accused U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland of poor judgement in waiting too long to appoint a special prosecutor. We discussed the four cases set against former president Trump and Johnston distinguished the difference between a pardon and clemency and spoke of the IRS as “tax police” as well as why many Americans appear to approve of Trump not paying any taxes. We concluded with Johnston talking about his only appearance, with no return invitation, on the Rachel Maddow’s TV show and a story, set in Lansing, Michigan, of one of the few times he felt, as an investigative reporter, he was wrong.